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2:40:18 What makes you think so? Sure, we all "want" many things, or wish many things, but implementing them is HARD!
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2:38:04 Do they? Which tools, who will make them follow in line? Ever heard of "co-evolution"?
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2:34:28 So don't you think it would be about time to get serious about it instead of playing games?
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2:29:08 Says the guy who a minute ago complained about Twitter. YouTube is utterly crap just as well. Let's see how long it takes until that realization hits in.
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2:26:48 Wait, isn't Twitter in the red since its inception?
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2:25:26 Honestly, who cares about Twitter? We all know that it shouldn't exist, that it should be RSS feeds, end of story.
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2:11:13 Visions and possibilities, there are many of those, that doesn't mean that any of them become real. Envisioning for envisioning's sake, that's fine, fun and entertaining, but we still might remain stuck on an ugly future.
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2:10:00 You guys did the CCCs, deep dives and profiles on the website, and none of these worked.
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2:08:13 Yes, that's a European position in terms of ethics (less so in the US), and not necessarily tied to potential, maybe even to the contrary.
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1:56:12 I'm waiting for more than one year. I only received explicit refusal to talk about Engelbartian stuff. The open invitation is likely only directed to the attendants of this particular Zoom call.
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1:51:14 Where is the abundance, could it please come this place, please?
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1:50:50 Some marketing is fine, but imagine a situation where it really would be required to become poor, and then the world goes down in flames because nobody wants to accept it. Sounds like I've heard that story before somewhere, why aren't I'm surprised?
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1:40:15 No, it is not. Seems you don't understand data.
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1:40:05 You don't have these sticks. I suggest sticks first, people second.
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1:38:33 Yeah, great. Very Engelbartian indeed. Not.
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1:36:03 Why are you backing out of it? You're invited!
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1:33:22 I'm not convinced that they program a great deal.
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1:31:24 Oh my. Back to square one.
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1:30:46 Where is it? Never saw it.
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1:30:19 That didn't go anywhere, did it?
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1:30:07 If you have the technology, why don't you do it, just for yourself?
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1:29:55 Aren't there words in text as well? By the way, the words/text on Facebook, you barely own any of it.
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1:26:26 That's simply not possible. I wasn't able to ever get write access to any of the maps, nor to take initiative.
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1:17:40 No, that's simply not true.
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1:16:40 Would you please just shut up, too? It got the web "very, very far", and very very broken as well, to the point we probably can only scrap it by now.
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1:15:25 Just shut up, would you?
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1:13:38 Engelbart didn't do much visually in terms of how we understand/use the term today.
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1:12:24 What do you know about Engelbart's work? Has there been a conversation about Engelbart's work? Barely so. I would like to learn where and when it happened, and what has been said.
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1:10:05 That's the other Doug, Doug Breitbart. Not to be confused with the other Doug, Engelbart.
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1:08:42 Great, second hand knowledge, just making some claims with zero interest of looking into the subject. And what will be the summary of your life?
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1:07:05 Come on!
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1:01:35 There it is, right there. No clue, total confusion, pure ignorance.
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1:01:10 That's not true, I know beyond doubt.
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1:00:58 Engelbart showed us also how to do this.
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59:50 Wonder how that's related to Engelbart, and why the previous more Engelbart-related groups were abandoned.
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59:16 You guys can't.
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57:40 Mathematicians and system thinkers have one major problem: they don't own factories, they don't write laws. In contrast to Engelbart, they lack the ability to apply their theories.
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56:45 Just another random Engelbart interpretation, just as I add my random interpretation as well. Do you realize that Engelbart always (had to) look at big business for funding/scaling, that the Bootstrap Institute was specifically set up towards that and that the Douglas Engelbart Insitute seems to continue to try that strategy to the current day? Where's the OHS, if I may ask? Why didn't you work on that one and instead made proposals to attract funding?
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47:37 And none of them do even have a clue about his work or study it, nor the other heros which aren't even mentioned, ever. It's fancy to mention Engelbart, but leaving his vision abandoned does him a disservice. The GCC has a horrible track record of doing this, as it was indicated/demonstrated several times ago even in this call alone, before and after this timestamp.
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45:15 It's just that this live, real-time voice calls as main vehicle are toxic, sabotaging and counter-productive.
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36:00 No structure, no useful progress, just conversations among themselves.
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24:50 Sam has that for ages. For ages!
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16:45 Ideas are worth nothing without an idle, capable implementation engine available on standby that just happened to run out of ideas to realize. We all have loads of ideas, and none of them are ever realized.
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10:47 There's nothing wrong with the Internet! The wiring is mostly OK, the architecture is some of the best we ever came up with. Problem solved.
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2:44:20 Oh, so Glenn is the "technology" mentioned at 1:30:07?